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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:17:05 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Hannes Magnusson
<hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't think of a statement I would disagree more with. These are
> exactly the ones we should be bundling.

>> My reasoning is simple. The key for bundling extensions is to have
>> them available for most hosting solutions. If a shared host provides
>
>
> No. Join the real world again. Anything not in vanilla PHP is hard to
> install because it causes more work in maintenance of the server, and
> increases the risk of fuckups etc etc

Can you please stay at a technical level? Thanks. I'm not going to
argue if my experiences, feedbacks and interactions with any kind of
projects is larger or longer than yours (it is as a matter of fact but
who cares?).

But one thing is sure, all distributions do include mongodb,
memcache(d), couchdb, etc. If you can't run an apt-get install
memcached (non core), just like you run apt-get install pdo_mysql
(core), then there is something intrinsically wrong in your system.

> Being able to use "hyped technology" out-of-the box is exactly what we
> want to achieve.

I use mongodb, couchdb, memcached, and many other out of the box. My
only concerns is the lack of pecl support for many of them and that's
why I do think it is the way to go. And that's what the distros want
as well.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

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