Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52916 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22129 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2011 11:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2011 11:09:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.170 mail-wy0-f170.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.170] ([74.125.82.170:39694] helo=mail-wy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6B/13-26000-CD36BED4 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:09:16 -0400 Received: by wyb34 with SMTP id 34so2548954wyb.29 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 04:09:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZSsr4aSb3eK9TmsfhJuZaiodUPZddGvwO1twPmqPwYI=; b=dmFW+wdMyJgseZZ7OIXTNfQPvj9sW+CC884447k3cSzAbtFXDa2prl0eobtyKQbv9x 9Z4jB4r8mWBcJQcwWbOsQkGtIDR7VYbb/SurQ4CgvlPbDmUygznFSUTqSwlFeuzXbvrf eN7VCT0Ce4sGnt4oSphQadTFUM5R8cTtgU12E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wXUO/eb/rrEC6R2tG0Tid4mIdcspft1g9sz8j0OG+7COg3Qclj6k3wIItvnrYYlBMZ 4pZtHSy9U9EZR7EpzSpOwdFLlDDOG4y5O0UzFwNYUSpJscCf+xxdqfFtEGkdwtf1oXXp ZWVge+IhfpqxjRnITil5E5yjekBw2NIiGAEO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.59.83 with SMTP id r61mr2361288wec.5.1307272153493; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 04:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.50.212 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 04:09:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:09:13 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Andi Gutmans , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com (Hannes Magnusson) On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:57, Pierre Joye wrote: > However, for technologies specific extension, be hyped or not, I see > no reason to bundle them. It makes no sense to bundle mongodb, > memcached clients or whatever other specific features. I can't think of a statement I would disagree more with. These are exactly the ones we should be bundling. > My reasoning is simple. The key for bundling extensions is to have > them available for most hosting solutions. If a shared host provides No. Join the real world again. Anything not in vanilla PHP is hard to install because it causes more work in maintenance of the server, and increases the risk of fuckups etc etc Being able to use "hyped technology" out-of-the box is exactly what we want to achieve. -Hannes