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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:17:17 +0545
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV]
 5.4 moving forward)
From: drak@zikula.org (Drak)

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Have you guys considered doodle.com?  I think you are all stressing way too
much over the voting process.  When a vote is closed you can then transfer
the decision to the RFC.

Drak

On 3 June 2011 14:12, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> >
> >> > Voting on the wiki? Yuck. If you want participation, do it here on the
> >> > mailinglist and store the record in the wiki. If all "votes" are
> showing
> >>
> >> Voting on ML is messy and means somebody needs to read every message on
> the
> >> list and look for votes, however long, tedious and offtopic the
> discussion
> >> gets. Voting with, well, voting application is clean, automatic and
> efficient.
> >> I don't understand why we should use medium that is unfit for the
> purpose
> >> instead of using applications specifically designed for doing what we
> try to
> >> do.
> >
> > Yes, it's messy on ML. My points where:
> > - a call to vote is easily drowned out on the ML with all the noise
> > - editting votes on a wiki can too easily be manipulated (I could just
> >  change your votes, and there would be no trail).
>
> There is a log and we know who did edit what. Basic trust is required
> anyway and if such tricks happen, really, I do not know what to think
> about the person doing them (well I do, but that's not the place to
> say it).
>
> A plugin will be installed to ease the process, login, vote. You won't
> be able to add/edit other votes.
>
> About when a vote happens and how to inform the devs, I do not see
> other solutions than getting the devs to read the discussions on the
> MLs. If some can't stand the heat, then we can't do much for them
> anyway,
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Pierre
>
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