Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52843 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51065 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2011 08:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2011 08:03:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.193 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.193 smtp193.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.193] ([67.192.241.193:39365] helo=smtp193.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C3/04-29906-73598ED4 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 04:03:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp19.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 56F203C8529; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 04:03:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp19.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 030A13C8569; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 04:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DE89534.5070206@sugarcrm.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 01:03:00 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derick Rethans CC: PHP Internals References: <4DE7F179.5010402@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward) From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > Voting on the wiki? Yuck. If you want participation, do it here on the > mailinglist and store the record in the wiki. If all "votes" are showing Voting on ML is messy and means somebody needs to read every message on the list and look for votes, however long, tedious and offtopic the discussion gets. Voting with, well, voting application is clean, automatic and efficient. I don't understand why we should use medium that is unfit for the purpose instead of using applications specifically designed for doing what we try to do. > up just in the wiki then there is no exposure on the list and things are > easy to miss (especially with the huge amount of noise that's already on > the list). There will be exposure to the list, with list of topics and explanations. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227