Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52810 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20985 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2011 20:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jun 2011 20:19:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sean@seancoates.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sean@seancoates.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain seancoates.com from 64.15.79.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sean@seancoates.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.79.181 iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from [64.15.79.181] ([64.15.79.181:37152] helo=iconoclast.caedmon.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 54/90-18291-840F7ED4 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:19:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87BB784052; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:20:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from iconoclast.caedmon.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (iconoclast.caedmon.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CMie7gZ0ey74; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.145.200] (modemcable050.248-178-173.mc.videotron.ca [173.178.248.50]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65C90784057; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:19:14 -0400 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <8377D924-763A-4C44-A018-052A74686BA9@seancoates.com> References: <4DE5368A.6050603@moonspot.net> <0047B798-AFBC-41CF-A4EC-74A026B657FE@seancoates.com> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux) From: sean@seancoates.com (Sean Coates) >> If people vote on this now, will further discussion about how this = SHOULD >> work be shut down with "we already voted on this"? > which other discussions do you wish? Json is clearly not an option and > not enough people (but a couple) likes or wants it. >=20 > The RFC is about short array syntax and as far as I can see there is > already a clear consensus for one of the proposed new syntax. I don't see why JSON (or JSON-like, or JavaScript Object Literal, or = whatever the least politically-fired term of the moment) syntax is = "clearly" not an option. I'm considering writing a new RFC that calls = for first-class JSONishy syntax, but I have better things to do if it's = already dead in the water. As much as I'd like to avoid drawing out this discussion, I think a = premature vote that will be used as a political wedge to shut down all = future syntaxes that don't use T_ARRAY is not in the best interest of = PHP. S