Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52750 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86780 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2011 10:40:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jun 2011 10:40:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.170 mail-wy0-f170.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.170] ([74.125.82.170:54441] helo=mail-wy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E8/56-49351-1B867ED4 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:40:50 -0400 Received: by wyb34 with SMTP id 34so561686wyb.29 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 03:40:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JXw1lrL0PXcSAKDe65IwT0XlqbE5Srj5GwpGSVG4F+k=; b=n0RUsD2m+MQhbh5sTHeXu4Cj26Hy5HEHfkkX4b7UD4dWweh6P5ZJP/o05+gymyVGj/ ZR58Dv0AzibNzd9k5B9WS0TgLbexX9vF8xO9zZ2LhgJZL6TFxZPb2FmBWslZJuDIZwVj O5lmIqvqv06/1qz8inBTLp4B35NLIZYwKEsWo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=niwdVxE5yc4sy4hCq7rFSB3CLyRt+n5zDvfmwvviMEtchy1SJtnnI5KtjGFhyh90ae vG4wO4f3ReGoW5/3Qc+P2Vq1IWR0a8tPy32Xf8mYtxA1ZU7a3hqDHzGD9sL1qe78EEO8 dZsDnX4fz9ODOlIKgyMGn6pZ+efudU4mcKB2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.233.211 with SMTP id p61mr533895weq.107.1307011246470; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 03:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.253.168 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 03:40:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DE6BE66.3070007@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:40:46 +0200 Message-ID: To: Peter Lind Cc: Christopher Jones , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Final version, RFC release process From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Peter Lind wrote: > On 2 June 2011 10:23, Pierre Joye wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Peter Lind wrote: >> >>> Sorry for jumping into the thread, but I couldn't help noting that you seem >>> confused about the distro suggestion. I think Ubuntu was the example, and >>> there's nothing random at all about their release process. There are fixed >>> timelines and life cycles in Ubuntu - having less branches does not in any >>> way stop them from having a fixed release process and schedule. >> >> It is about "random" release being chosen as LTS. For many users, it >> will preventing migration until a given feature is part of a LTS >> release. >> >> Our proposal to have fixed life time and release cycles does not have >> this random effect and each x.y release is equally supported for the >> same duration. The amount of branches can be reduced easily and even >> if we may have many at one point, it will be only about sec fixes, >> that's really not a problem (a bit of automated tasked will help here >> too). > > Then it's an argument about wording, not content. See > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases : the LTS have fixed life time and > come at fixed intervals - basically exactly the same you propose with > "fixed life time and release cycles". No, it is the same that what we proposed. What we proposed is that every release is actually a LTS release. What Ubuntu uses works fine for distros given that it is a distro with an insane amount of totally unrelated projects they distribute, and alternative repositories exist for almost each of them. For a programming language, it is a totally different story. for ref: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org