Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52702 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5729 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2011 20:25:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Jun 2011 20:25:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=philip@roshambo.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=philip@roshambo.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain roshambo.org from 209.85.212.182 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: philip@roshambo.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.182 mail-px0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.182] ([209.85.212.182:65255] helo=mail-px0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 70/11-32367-430A6ED4 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:25:25 -0400 Received: by pxi20 with SMTP id 20so124663pxi.13 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.19.106 with SMTP id d10mr3017807pbe.226.1306959922102; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c-24-19-164-241.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (c-24-19-164-241.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.19.164.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x1sm1365507pbb.34.2011.06.01.13.25.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:25:19 -0700 Cc: "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" , dukeofgaming , Brian Moon , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <0291E0B1-688A-45D5-8274-5E9752C153FF@roshambo.org> References: <4DE5368A.6050603@moonspot.net> <8BEEEE49-8DA3-4634-BF9C-120F7A15B613@roshambo.org> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux) From: philip@roshambo.org (Philip Olson) On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Philip Olson = wrote: >=20 >> I'm choosing to ignore this voting mechanism because it feels wrong. >=20 >=20 > We always voted based on php.net accounts (@php.net that is), whether > it is a good thing or not is another question and unrelated to this > RFC (for one, I consider that non php.net people should have a voice, > iirc). But this discussion started off so well with true brain storming and = ideas coming to light. People started discussing the pros and cons, = people saw and began understanding the different angles, and then some = people grew tired and forced a premature vote. Yes it got a little = messy, but such is life. --voting. And besides, it's rare that a tallied vote is required because typically = a real consensus can be reached. Regards, Philip