Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52567 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45001 invoked from network); 31 May 2011 18:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 May 2011 18:52:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sean@seancoates.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sean@seancoates.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain seancoates.com from 64.15.79.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sean@seancoates.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.79.181 iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from [64.15.79.181] ([64.15.79.181:37403] helo=iconoclast.caedmon.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 24/03-25701-2E835ED4 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 14:52:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0D0784057; Tue, 31 May 2011 14:53:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from iconoclast.caedmon.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (iconoclast.caedmon.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wblvjTpi2WtV; Tue, 31 May 2011 14:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.145.200] (modemcable050.248-178-173.mc.videotron.ca [173.178.248.50]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CB9D784052; Tue, 31 May 2011 14:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4DE5368A.6050603@moonspot.net> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:52:12 -0400 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <2BFFEAC1-395E-4101-9452-002E63DCFD91@seancoates.com> References: <4DE5368A.6050603@moonspot.net> To: Brian Moon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Short syntax for Arrays (redux) From: sean@seancoates.com (Sean Coates) I'm one of the people who've brought it up on Twitter. Today's = discussion seems to have earned some traction, which is a step in the = right direction, I believe. > I would prefer (as Rasmus pointed out) not to start a long discussion = about it. Primarily I would be curious if anyone on the lists (from the = RFC wiki page) below would like to change your vote or if you are not = listed below and would like to be counted, that would be great too. At risk of turning this into a longer-than-necessary discussion, I = believe a new RFC is required at this point. Making [ and ] work as = (T_ARRAY, '(') and (')'), respectively is no longer good enough, for the = main reason you've pointed out: JSON is becoming ubiquitous; actual = first-class JSON would be very valuable to me. I would be happy to find some time to participate in RFC reform for this = subject. That said: > PHP SVN account holder voters > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Pro: Andrei Zmievski, Andi Gutmans, Pierre Joye, Rasmus Lerdorf, = Stanislav Malyshev, Brian Moon, Kalle Sommer Nielsen, Edin Kadribasic +1 (sean) S