Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52488 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25757 invoked from network); 20 May 2011 18:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 May 2011 18:14:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brian@moonspot.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brian@moonspot.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain moonspot.net designates 72.5.90.27 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brian@moonspot.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.5.90.27 smtp.dealnews.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [72.5.90.27] ([72.5.90.27:55071] helo=smtp.dealnews.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E8/09-12578-37FA6DD4 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:14:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 7348 invoked from network); 20 May 2011 18:14:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.dealnews.com) (10.1.10.7) by -H with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 20 May 2011 18:14:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3013 invoked from network); 20 May 2011 18:14:06 -0000 Received: from h105.248.18.98.static.ip.windstream.net (HELO macdough.local) (brianm@98.18.248.105) by -H with ESMTPA; 20 May 2011 18:14:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4DD6AF6B.2090204@moonspot.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:14:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9oYW5uZXMgU2NobMO8dGVy?= CC: Larry Garfield , internals@lists.php.net References: <4DD693BB.7030300@garfieldtech.com> <1305909198.1318.13.camel@guybrush> <4DD69AB2.8050005@garfieldtech.com> <1305910898.1318.21.camel@guybrush> In-Reply-To: <1305910898.1318.21.camel@guybrush> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Porting PECL to userspace From: brian@moonspot.net (Brian Moon) > I think it's the exact opposite - the less C code we need the better. > Developing C code is more work. Maintaining C code is more work. > Distributing C code is more complicated. The less this is needed, the > faster PHP is, the better for everybody (except C programmers ;-) ) I was with you until "The less this is needed, the faster PHP is, the better for everybody". PHP is just a glue language on top of an awesome library of C. If more people would embrace that and quit including 1000 classes to show a simple web page then it would be better for everybody. Brian.