Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52451 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41373 invoked from network); 18 May 2011 22:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 May 2011 22:07:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dukeofgaming@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dukeofgaming@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dukeofgaming@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.170 mail-yx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.170] ([209.85.213.170:41443] helo=mail-yx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 46/89-27388-80344DD4 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:07:05 -0400 Received: by yxi11 with SMTP id 11so815178yxi.29 for ; Wed, 18 May 2011 15:07:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ep91GQx1JXlQhAm2HjIENj90wDDaQDiwfnnzMUM60s4=; b=bHiGTWDgLjLRj9B8eQahZ8Uxy8ZuutD4nSGIXXxr4KqWO6k1qG0huljj1MHSJJ7X34 K9svhkzIAyCGuKUf8fo+lnmZ9TZHqanqRwMBBkjrZDrR0zStOzSNjfErbic7aXMIRMXL m0rUEWOjpoN2SP06InjhMd11V9nCTuy5HpdAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=C5Rb3vZaJ6QFE+enItoBsA5Spd5rVh180hXzeuuTgltitLCZsDyNe49IIi43CIsDWo BNnLFK0eftsFV5htyYihKiNxPR0bp15EnHG3fir5uPS2gX3Yuo7KD/Wy3KuF8TEI1F6E BSX77+Sm9EEyd0tQSXiL0GqjGSoMnmFUyy/CQ= Received: by 10.101.189.22 with SMTP id r22mr1496899anp.84.1305756421200; Wed, 18 May 2011 15:07:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.247.5 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2011 15:06:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <49E352FD.6070008@gmail.com> <2dedb8a0904131124u57f2f32ei27083a289f7f18a4@mail.gmail.com> <49E39B3C.2020401@zend.com> <49E47BF2.3090807@gmail.com> <9b3df6a50904140811o6d57a426gd320a822271e19f3@mail.gmail.com> <49E4CE2D.7010402@zend.com> <3B1B513E-2712-40C4-AC20-4A21EB039629@roshambo.org> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:06:41 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Philip Olson , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92adfa61b1804a3941bd1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6? From: dukeofgaming@gmail.com (dukeofgaming) --001636c92adfa61b1804a3941bd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I'm that somebody Tyrael is talking about. FTR, I'm all for deprecating short tags, but I do feel the echo shortcut is a separate issue. Perhaps if wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Philip Olson wrote: > > > PLEASE, let the dead horse be! > >>>> > >>> > >> Apparently, this horse is not as dead as some would like it to be :) > >> > > > > The horse is not dead or if so then no proper burial service was given. > > People are still waiting for the invitations and wanting to hear the > eulogy. > > > > So, instead I'll make the following assumptions and engrave them into > this > > topics tombstone: > > > > - short_open_tag is fully alive > > - short_open_tag is PHP_INI_SYSTEM|PHP_INI_PERDIR > > - all distributed php.ini files disable it (5.3+) > > - the default will be enabled, forever, unless #5 is used > > - --disable-short-tags will exist, forever > > - no new alternative syntax will be implemented, ever > > > > That's the situation people should understand and since this horse is > > considered dead I will: > > > > - update php.ini ini descriptions to reflect this > > - update documentation to reflect this > > - mark http://wiki.php.net/rfc/shortags as declined > > - point to the declined rfc when people suggest these alternatives > > > > All discussion is over unless a human knows the above synopsis is false, > > because CVS has spoken. RIP. > > > > > apparently somebody else brought up the shortag(specifically the topic again, and I've noticed that you moved the rfc from declined to "In > discussion" recently (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shortags?do=revisions), so > I > would like to know that are these rules still hold, or did something > happened since this decision? > I couldn't find the suggested clarification in the docs either (maybe > looked > at the wrong place) > > Tyrael > --001636c92adfa61b1804a3941bd1--