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Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:10:43 -0500
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Subject: Regarding the echo short tag
From: dukeofgaming@gmail.com (dukeofgaming)

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Hi,

I just wanted to ask what is the community's feeling on keeping the echo
shortcut. I know short tags are kind of deprecated and I think it is the
right call, however, I really really think the echo shortcut <?= should be
kept regardless of plain short tags, which are kind of pointless. I've read
the RFC regarding this and I think the second + third option are the only
sane ones.

Regarding syntax, I do like <?:$var and would maybe also advocate for
<%=$var or <% $var. I think  another option could be a valid namespaced XML
notation <php:var /> (which is still shorter than <?php echo $var?>), but
maybe this later has bigger implications that I'm too stupid right now to
realize (for better or worse).

I'm personally still using them since the benefit and enjoyment of working
them supersedes the worst case scenario, which is a global find & replace of
<?= to <?php echo. I tell my coworkers to enjoy them while they still can,
however this is a luxury that can be only had with custom development, not
open-source projects due to the obvious problems with portability given that
short_open_tags is now off by default.

Best regards,

David Vega

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