Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52333 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40881 invoked from network); 11 May 2011 22:21:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 May 2011 22:21:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@stefan-marr.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@stefan-marr.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain stefan-marr.de from 81.20.134.149 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@stefan-marr.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.20.134.149 vps-1012701-4512.united-hoster.de Received: from [81.20.134.149] ([81.20.134.149:48815] helo=vps-1012701-4512.united-hoster.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F3/D9-25254-6DB0BCD4 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 18:21:11 -0400 Received: from d51a4d67f.access.telenet.be ([81.164.214.127] helo=[192.168.0.15]) by vps-1012701-4512.united-hoster.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QKHm3-0007Nr-SP; Thu, 12 May 2011 00:20:56 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <41C30BEF-CC30-4A32-A8FB-2B8A6132804C@roshambo.org> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 00:20:49 +0200 Cc: Stas Malyshev , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Andi Gutmans , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <4E0401F4-2A38-478C-9C0E-846A428D86CB@stefan-marr.de> References: <4DC729EE.9090600@sugarcrm.com> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901401CB0@US-EX2.zend.net> <1305138029.2232.9.camel@guybrush> <691BF1CD-66E1-4123-AA98-A205A5E67F78@roshambo.org> <4DCADA70.7080505@sugarcrm.com> <41C30BEF-CC30-4A32-A8FB-2B8A6132804C@roshambo.org> To: Philip Olson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again From: php@stefan-marr.de (Stefan Marr) Hi: On 11 May 2011, at 23:10, Philip Olson wrote: > On May 11, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > The alpha release proposal by Andi contains the text: >=20 > "I think we (almost) all agree that we need to start pushing PHP 5.4 = with all the goodness that has been developed "to-date". Additional = features can wait for the next version." >=20 > So, that's the concern there. But if the alpha is simply a trick to = convince people to test out a specific PHP 5.4 snapshot, and feel 5.4 is = real, then do it. ;) +1 that would definitely demonstrate the ability to get moving again. An important sign to the larger community. However, the stability/instability of the feature set should be clearly = defined. Thanks Stefan --=20 Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525