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Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:35:17 -0300
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To: Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From: martinscotta@gmail.com (Martin Scotta)

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 Martin Scotta


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>wrote:

> Well, maybe it's time to make some decisions and start to spin the wheels?
>
> I's quite obvious that annotations are out for next release until they are
> a
> docbook/phpDoc style. Personally I do not understand the concept fully, but
> my vote will definetly go to the docbook/phpdoc variant. Adding a whole new
> syntax is just crazy. PHP is a scripting language, not the Java/C# and
> alike, it should stay simple. Period.
> I hope KISS still is a PHP principle?
>
> Sometimes i'm sorry I don't like to do C - it just scared me away in
> college. Because people here sometimes just do strange things witch tend me
> to beleve that they do not know the PHP - they know C and try to add things
> they know from other languages so they don't have to learn the PHP way of
> doing things. Till the typehint threads and annotation threads i liked the
> core developer responces and the way php has been heading. Can we keep that
> and stop discussing things that are 100% alien to php like strict type
> hinting? in php? are you insane? same with annotations. wana do them? do
> them simple. docbook/phpdoc annotations allready exist - work out a
> standart
> and implement - clean, simple, fast and all ready exists within community.
> It's a no brainer.
>


Clean? Simple? fast? are you talking about PHP? :)

Now seriously I feel that trying to put things from other languages is
wrong, but that don't prevent us from learning from what other had learn
before.

For me, annotations belongs to Object Oriented programming, no matter where
they came from.
Probably this list is too C to speak about OO ?



>
> Same with features that have been worked on and forgotten. Revisit, finish
> and people will like it - there are thing people ask and thouse aren't
> annotations right now. Community wants typehints and a bunch of stuff from
> that RFC page.
>
> I hope a spark of reason and sanity will ignight and the procces will start
> in a few days, or PHP will be seriously screwed in a few years and i will
> have to make python my primary web development language and i don't wana do
> that.
>
> Arvids.
>

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