Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52283 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63446 invoked from network); 11 May 2011 09:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 May 2011 09:05:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dukeofgaming@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dukeofgaming@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dukeofgaming@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.170 mail-gy0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.170] ([209.85.160.170:62302] helo=mail-gy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 94/13-45512-E415ACD4 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 05:05:19 -0400 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so110819gyb.29 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 02:05:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2lpvU7BGWkHp557Or3aTJJolu6pc/JHvVAwPLKI9GHo=; b=qovg0MN4cxxd5X32zIcfQwt0H50JOEbnH/cJGQH6408Gm9m5gNNr/Qbwz+jd2xn8YT FU6Pf0qb+qn5zqhmXmDd5x/A+tTSzFtwiUFWG5n3XLo6jifh7UHWlmJZJQjScDni0kCa f2E3owocq6PeqIHh5nnWizP9+Wjlr0BtA64Jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=x3ESzSRg3WJEkbwBfdRtHFcMUqqU/DPYfohpDfZsel7BsJ41kr8z/5ANEwwKqjcvJY NzyVBX941l8OaDtA1nxwuWgruBZXieholJPsW/1pJvyhkHj+f5qqZi+dixIoSxb6k7DX YabV6VqnOZhPCgEV2/p1FvCxJkDyVYqlnWzns= Received: by 10.101.185.34 with SMTP id m34mr5549283anp.83.1305104716168; Wed, 11 May 2011 02:05:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.108.6 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2011 02:04:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DC729EE.9090600@sugarcrm.com> <4DC75FFF.40008@lerdorf.com> <4DC7A7F0.4000504@sugarcrm.com> <4DC819D0.5010008@lerdorf.com> <3680807C-229A-4889-9181-8953303425EC@stefan-marr.de> <4DC9081C.3020808@php.net> <94F64652-E936-4805-B164-A04FFBB1314A@stefan-marr.de> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 04:04:56 -0500 Message-ID: To: Michael Wallner Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bba0007d7904a2fc5fb3 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again From: dukeofgaming@gmail.com (dukeofgaming) --001636c5bba0007d7904a2fc5fb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Michael Wallner wrote: > On 05/10/2011 01:04 PM, Stefan Marr wrote: > >> >> The whole thing required a lot of, what I would characterize as, >> hand-holding. Internals is not the most open community and needs not >> only good arguments, but persistence. And, well, it also seem to >> require to get in touch with the right people... >> >> And now the whole discussion about 5.4 goes again in a direction >> where it will probably be stalled in the end. I am not to optimistic >> about an actual release date within 2011. >> > > Don't lose your head on it. If you look at the output buffering code > contained in trunk (which is to become 5.4), you may discover that it > has been written exactly 5 years ago. > > *gasps* --001636c5bba0007d7904a2fc5fb3--