Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52275 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48201 invoked from network); 11 May 2011 07:54:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 May 2011 07:54:46 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 78.142.172.145 gate-g21.inqnet.at Received: from [78.142.172.145] ([78.142.172.145:7254] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D4/60-45512-5C04ACD4 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 03:54:45 -0400 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 09:52:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110503 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4DC729EE.9090600@sugarcrm.com> <4DC75FFF.40008@lerdorf.com> <4DC7A7F0.4000504@sugarcrm.com> <4DC819D0.5010008@lerdorf.com> <3680807C-229A-4889-9181-8953303425EC@stefan-marr.de> <4DC9081C.3020808@php.net> <94F64652-E936-4805-B164-A04FFBB1314A@stefan-marr.de> In-Reply-To: <94F64652-E936-4805-B164-A04FFBB1314A@stefan-marr.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 78.142.172.145 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner) On 05/10/2011 01:04 PM, Stefan Marr wrote: > > The whole thing required a lot of, what I would characterize as, > hand-holding. Internals is not the most open community and needs not > only good arguments, but persistence. And, well, it also seem to > require to get in touch with the right people... > > And now the whole discussion about 5.4 goes again in a direction > where it will probably be stalled in the end. I am not to optimistic > about an actual release date within 2011. Don't lose your head on it. If you look at the output buffering code contained in trunk (which is to become 5.4), you may discover that it has been written exactly 5 years ago. Cheers, Mike