Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52250 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56298 invoked from network); 10 May 2011 19:36:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 May 2011 19:36:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.170 mail-yx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.170] ([209.85.213.170:35998] helo=mail-yx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 83/00-04851-3A399CD4 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 15:36:03 -0400 Received: by yxi11 with SMTP id 11so2773180yxi.29 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 12:36:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=poVMV4vT/YeLYtNKDgzmL3+8bXe4gu4g5BylNHI4Xyo=; b=UXzNV1jLcn9cKu4xPqkcxESUNVeTUZpP1SxkuEQYYY7DXmdWlSfZ2AZTOKgmEvFOe5 WkitQuKMAbHlhcZLC4MQZ6WVnnPmFz2mQuCQ6Iy87+6pyZvpaWkF7QCOxSLB8PjZDmXW zRSQjBPsO0WIDBhtat+zYanV4ztyM3G0FXfgU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YAY3h6S+EVCHx4pb9o54ERNMgYccCAxuB4iqQZaTMaXZ5Xaa7uScYMVeiu1zQ9Xgaf 3tP9EUQK0ntGmM1t7wVfqXGOKExqo3uXSbDsfziexgN2c8wnA5XAeDVMqlKZ4slc/eTV j/0NDUvL9XRjI/4BSmPiLWkveVVcQ1YBPO8s4= Received: by 10.150.172.17 with SMTP id u17mr7040974ybe.33.1305056160109; Tue, 10 May 2011 12:36:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.171.4 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2011 12:35:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DC826B1.4090806@lerdorf.com> <4DC82A36.8090604@lerdorf.com> <4DC83401.2090202@sugarcrm.com> <4DC8D122.3050507@lsces.co.uk> <4DC8F125.2010503@toolpark.com> <4DC8FB1A.7040206@lerdorf.com> <4DC98100.6080806@oracle.com> <4DC9827B.6080409@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 16:35:39 -0300 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Lester Caine , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] annotations again From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") Hi all, Based on an extensive chat with Matthew, I think we reached some consensus. I'll write another RFC related to Annotations in docblocks, then we can chat until reach some standardization and availability. I'll keep the old one for history purposes. It seems that none from core php devs accepted it, so I'll move it to rejected. As I told you previously, all I wanted was some good feedback to give a north and that's what I had. As soon as I finish the new RFC, I'll open another thread here for fine-grain the support and discuss architecture. I'll keep Stas comments in mind when creating it, so it would help in discussions. It seems we still have 2 weeks to discuss the new idea and less than 2 months to get it ready if everyone agreed. Regards, On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > >> Christopher Jones wrote: >> >>> The editor argument is out of place do you really think that the >>>> engine should we built around what IDE supports? >>>> >>> >>> IDEs are part of the PHP ecosystem, just as much as frameworks, op >>> code caches, documentation, bug reports, maintenance issues and even >>> current technology trends. =C2=A0The benefits of a new feature must be >>> calculated taking into account its impact on the whole ecosystem. >>> >> >> And many of us do not recognise some of the 'complaints' simply because = our >> own ecosystems have already solved the problem, but it's these 'new >> developments' that are threatening to destroy a perfectly stable system. >> >> > sorry my FUD counter just overflowed with your last comment. > > Tyrael > --=20 Guilherme Blanco Mobile: +55 (16) 9215-8480 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com S=C3=A3o Paulo - SP/Brazil