Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52244 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37459 invoked from network); 10 May 2011 18:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 May 2011 18:28:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.42 mail-ew0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.42] ([209.85.215.42:63208] helo=mail-ew0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6E/7C-04851-3E389CD4 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 14:28:55 -0400 Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1936617ewy.29 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TaEjH/Y++PviRK70iuYz7+oIs7w4lmuCCvQ7H6BD9PE=; b=wtlniex8YHubh4atpOTLORb7B6Keiaeyi4QWbm5oZr4yiA5Pqk84NTE8q+VZXGgZHh XILMdhl/+KmaxM3RycZZZn9LjXnj2Ms8pe4Z+yIFR/yUjb///aW4UOvv0F/Cy+kMtieQ nO24xgLANWbos8uOu8Q+j0mGxF6VuccXHgeww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=TT3lAL+YvMNmJhQsXHrHnN4ysM16rKKjdA4d3guBEJTXaDMwwcVgzUlsCQRlPdbPEL zuifVnmU6sF5w0cGMNceldYInloxLtcjtIYAOcQnIWhytjMxh7Vv1qtN6yqxZjZIBZ36 IcVOlr0yhQ1wqg5skXTWrqn9sp741OxEfOaE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.41.155 with SMTP id h27mr4012366eeb.199.1305052127721; Tue, 10 May 2011 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.127.7 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2011 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC9827B.6080409@lsces.co.uk> References: <4DC826B1.4090806@lerdorf.com> <4DC82A36.8090604@lerdorf.com> <4DC83401.2090202@sugarcrm.com> <4DC8D122.3050507@lsces.co.uk> <4DC8F125.2010503@toolpark.com> <4DC8FB1A.7040206@lerdorf.com> <4DC98100.6080806@oracle.com> <4DC9827B.6080409@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 20:28:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4St8J-FvUBb89rsFCQzX_FLiENc Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e657b06a7c7a0804a2f0207f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] annotations again From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs) --0016e657b06a7c7a0804a2f0207f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > Christopher Jones wrote: > >> The editor argument is out of place do you really think that the >>> engine should we built around what IDE supports? >>> >> >> IDEs are part of the PHP ecosystem, just as much as frameworks, op >> code caches, documentation, bug reports, maintenance issues and even >> current technology trends. The benefits of a new feature must be >> calculated taking into account its impact on the whole ecosystem. >> > > And many of us do not recognise some of the 'complaints' simply because our > own ecosystems have already solved the problem, but it's these 'new > developments' that are threatening to destroy a perfectly stable system. > > sorry my FUD counter just overflowed with your last comment. Tyrael --0016e657b06a7c7a0804a2f0207f--