Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52239 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29587 invoked from network); 10 May 2011 18:16:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 May 2011 18:16:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com from 148.87.113.121 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 148.87.113.121 rcsinet10.oracle.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [148.87.113.121] ([148.87.113.121:56568] helo=rcsinet10.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F1/DA-04851-E0189CD4 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 14:16:47 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet22.oracle.com (rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p4AIGe9Q024402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 May 2011 18:16:42 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rtcsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4AIGdE7019024 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 May 2011 18:16:40 GMT Received: from abhmt017.oracle.com (abhmt017.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p4AIGYTl027758; Tue, 10 May 2011 13:16:34 -0500 Received: from [130.35.68.31] (/130.35.68.31) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 10 May 2011 11:16:33 -0700 Message-ID: <4DC98100.6080806@oracle.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:16:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Scotta CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <4DC826B1.4090806@lerdorf.com> <4DC82A36.8090604@lerdorf.com> <4DC83401.2090202@sugarcrm.com> <4DC8D122.3050507@lsces.co.uk> <4DC8F125.2010503@toolpark.com> <4DC8FB1A.7040206@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4DC9810A.018E:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] annotations again From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) On 05/10/2011 05:28 AM, Martin Scotta wrote: > The editor argument is out of place do you really think that the > engine should we built around what IDE supports? IDEs are part of the PHP ecosystem, just as much as frameworks, op code caches, documentation, bug reports, maintenance issues and even current technology trends. The benefits of a new feature must be calculated taking into account its impact on the whole ecosystem. Chris -- Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/