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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)


On May 10, 2011, at 18:57, "Matthew Weier O'Phinney" <weierophinney@php.net=
> wrote:

> With annotations, my main issue, which I voiced early (and others did as
> well), is that we can already do much of what the RFC proposes by
> parsing annotations in docblocks. In fact, adding the support
> potentially creates more work for developers (more on that below).
>=20
> I don't see a need for a new grammar and syntax; why don't we just
> provide a standard for annotations within docblocks, and provide a
> native parser for annotations that follow that format? This allows folks
> who are already using docblock annotations a boost in speed, and only
> gets invoked during reflection (since otherwise it's considered a
> comment).=20
>=20
> Guilherme often raises ZF's server classes as poster children for why
> annotations support is needed. However, I'd like to note that I don't
> feel this way at all. In fact, annotations support would create _more_
> work for us. Why? Because now we'd need both our docblock comments (in
> order to generate the API docs) AND annotations (to provide the server
> hinting we provide, which currently is derived from PHPDoc annotations).
> A native docblock annotation parser would much better suit our purposes.
>=20
> So, basically, we're in a situation where there's no consensus on
> whether the feature is needed or what the approach should be, and people
> pointing fingers at eachother indicating the other party is not
> listening or providing constructive feedback. I think that's reason
> enough to pan the feature for 5.4.

Couldn't have phrase it better, it illustrates the opinion I shared here a =
few months ago very well.

+1

Zeev