Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52205 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22375 invoked from network); 10 May 2011 09:35:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 May 2011 09:35:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sebastian@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sebastian@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 93.190.64.36 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sebastian@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 93.190.64.36 mail-6.de-punkt.de Received: from [93.190.64.36] ([93.190.64.36:44320] helo=mail-6.de-punkt.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/71-13354-DC609CD4 for ; Tue, 10 May 2011 05:35:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 7158 invoked by uid 511); 10 May 2011 09:35:07 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 7153, pid: 7156, t: 0.0359s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.31?) (sb@sebastian-bergmann.de@91.55.39.247) by 0 with ESMTPA; 10 May 2011 09:35:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4DC906CB.2030503@php.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:35:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4DC729EE.9090600@sugarcrm.com> <4DC75FFF.40008@lerdorf.com> <4DC7A7F0.4000504@sugarcrm.com> <4DC819D0.5010008@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again From: sebastian@php.net (Sebastian Bergmann) Am 09.05.2011 18:55, schrieb Marcelo Gornstein: > regarding the annotations stuff: it seems the php community (in > general) really wants annotations. lots of important and widely used > frameworks use them (meaning that not only the plain php users have a > use for this feature, but also the users of the respective frameworks, > increasing the overall user number interested). i.e: doctrine, > symfony2, ding, phpunit, etc, etc. we cant just ignore this fact. I see no problem with the way that PHPUnit handles its annotations at the moment. I do, however, see problems with a migration of PHPUnit to an annotation system provided by PHP: whatever its syntax, if I wanted to use it in PHPUnit that means that existing tests will have to be changed. -- Sebastian Bergmann Co-Founder and Principal Consultant http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://thePHP.cc/