Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52185 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40666 invoked from network); 9 May 2011 23:27:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2011 23:27:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.42 mail-yi0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.42] ([209.85.218.42:52103] helo=mail-yi0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A4/24-14908-D5878CD4 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 19:27:25 -0400 Received: by yib12 with SMTP id 12so2424498yib.29 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 16:27:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L5mWga39ohMu8LcOTGNaFSBIh4kpMnSmEzmTG8NOaH4=; b=fq/9rjkOmXtq1+UkKaVSzvidlscCZlNNq30dZksa39OojE1c1chbRlscVzcIzRBE7Q +mev1Krx5Co3wtfsOPC9Thb5HWaQJJwk1oJRhi5PqR5TuSDQvsPUpbBbRrI8E4f/vW7B k64e3yXJPGa9/ALoscJtx6EvV+Ntg/cMhnQUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eTZUw8p5F9H5ggSOGwnfAIXPodBjIHEvMg+Y9cy0thDNfXMB5pALHkZuHwwmGg+E9N QYDO71pW4JMC1EhJWdjSnA3p8stSJpuUV35koEKAEijGusBDRvskxWDDqX8LiVLjg6TA CSi0Egr2x09dlyYAObdQMq6R6TjB5DftfY/2k= Received: by 10.151.77.4 with SMTP id e4mr5935828ybl.147.1304983642128; Mon, 09 May 2011 16:27:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.171.4 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2011 16:27:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC85FBE.2060005@lsces.co.uk> References: <4DC826B1.4090806@lerdorf.com> <4DC82A36.8090604@lerdorf.com> <4DC85FBE.2060005@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:27:02 -0300 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Please let's not bitch about lazy users not learning C to implement THEIR missing feature. (Was Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again) From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") Hi Lester, I updated the RFC. I may have missed one thing or two, but overall idea and how code behave is there. This question is answered on wiki RFC. =3D) Here is the direct link: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/annotations Regards, On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote: >> >> What I thought it could be changed is: >> - Allow PHP to support it natively and also take advantage of opcode cac= he >> - Make API cleaner > > Guilherme you still also have to explain WHY we need this. I have a > perfectly functional documentation and hinting setup working from docbloc= k > entries in several years worth of code. Rewriting all of that would have = to > have some reason, and working with two systems in parallel does not make > sense. My current method of working is well supported in phpeclipse while > your new offering will require some major work in phpeclipse and other to= ols > simply to access it? More work for other open source developers who again > probably don't need it. So as far as I am concerned I need to be persuade= d > why this code needs to be IN the core code when I for one can't see any > reason to use it. Just because COMPILED languages have it is not a reason= to > load an interpreted language with it. Adding it as a removable extension > might make more sense to me, just as much of the less used code can be > disabled if we want. And I was coding in C/C++ long before I switched TO = PHP > to get away from the problems of using compiled languages for dynamic web > based systems. > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=3Dcontact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// > Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --=20 Guilherme Blanco Mobile: +55 (16) 9215-8480 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com S=C3=A3o Paulo - SP/Brazil