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Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 18:09:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky)

Seems like a good plan to me. Hopefully as per schedule it gets us 5.4
this year.

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I has been almost a month since we did our routine talk about 5.4, so here
> it goes again. The patch for the scalar hints seems to be pretty simple (see
> http://random-bits-of.info/no_scalar_hints.diff - no generated files
> included, that will be done on actual commit), so it should not hold us too
> much.
> I propose putting current code in a branch and continue without scalar
> typing for 5.4 - any objections to that?
>
> I would like to propose the following process (of course, dates can be moved
> around, etc. - I consider phase lengths be more important that actual dates,
> but any of them can be shifted if reason arises) for 5.4:
>
> - starting now - nominate features for 5.4 (see
> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54), discussion on them
> - May 18 - start voting and debating on features that have no clear
> consensus support immediately. On the end of May is also phptek, so we could
> have some discussion there about it if needed.
> - June 15 (a bit more than a month) - alpha, branching of 5_4, open only for
> bugfixes and features in TODO list that are approved and can be done by beta
> time.
> - July 20 - beta, bugfixes only (if we add a lot of features, we may want to
> insert another 1-month alpha period, so far it doesn't look like it but may
> change)
> - Aug 24 - RC1, then an RC every 2 weeks until stable
> - Release - somewhere in October or November, depending on the RCs.
>
> I think we need to start moving. Not much is happening in 5.4 now as far as
> I can see, and we have a good feature set that is long due to be released.
> For proposing stuff for 5.4, please do it here:
> https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54 and also on the list if it wasn't discussed
> and you think it requires discussion.
>
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