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Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:50:32 -0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com")

Hi Andi,

That's all I want.
Someone to at least look at the patch and give me feedback.
None here did that, all you're doing is telling "no, we don't accept it".

Why don't you give me some valuable feedback so I can work on the
patch to turn it relevant to you?

Regards,

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Christopher Jones [mailto:christopher.jones@oracle.com]
>
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:28 AM
>
>> To: internals@lists.php.net; Guilherme Blanco
>
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> On 05/09/2011 07:44 AM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>
>> > It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and
>
>> > rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's
>
>> > very bad for the language and very bad for all of users.
>
>>
>
>> Rasmus & Stas have already pointed out this is not valid and lots of use=
r
>
>> requests are implemented.
>
>>
>
>> I'd add that PHP has never had a lot of spare developer capacity.
>
>> Programmers are not idly sitting around, waiting for random ideas to cod=
e
>
>> up.=C2=A0 If you feel strongly about a feature you have to convince the =
core
>
>> contributors of its merits and (i) pique the interest of someone capable
>> of
>
>> implementing it and then help with testing and documentation, or (ii)
>
>> implement it all yourself.
>
>>
>
>> It's easier than ever to get an SVN account, so contributing would be a
>> good
>
>> way to get karma.
>
>
>
> I agree but also want to emphasize that just because there=E2=80=99s a pa=
tch it
> doesn=E2=80=99t mean it=E2=80=99s a good idea and should be accepted.
>
> Of course like Chris points out it=E2=80=99ll significantly increase the =
chances of
> people taking it seriously and playing around with the idea.
>
>
>
> I also think Matthew makes a good point =E2=80=93 annotations can be view=
ed in
> different ways and arguably there are already quite a lot of possibilitie=
s
> with what exists today.
>
>
>
> Andi



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