Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52168 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85208 invoked from network); 9 May 2011 17:44:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2011 17:44:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.42 mail-ew0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.42] ([209.85.215.42:40012] helo=mail-ew0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FC/FD-20726-4F728CD4 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 13:44:21 -0400 Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1621618ewy.29 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:44:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3uhvMpnEwCciv9FoCm6uDpVhV3A5bk9BUSn36IATcRs=; b=PZT7R94Z2pOTbZheeOgcrzyI6EF87Jt3N8Ibb61Uj2gqb1sUitsIFSQy2rCCDzw3bO R+b6gPATDiM3UOaB4DR7/3DDhZD3C5R4qtRZqbKVlOw5oltnWiW5ScQ7o0pdFE2rCoMC u3hM4gaLb1MF83uYKRpgPeKQxosbE97/9yCio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=TClbFKrlRtKOuo58XMCTnfj94PPpShffy5iel6y6iK57BTnWBQS2W51PkQbBQXRQrC TFgYx9FcTaT2Lm9SNkaT1/4WyN0eBpW6zHHA09b3+q1L7O7ZPkZS+l6W4AzlC269y1Ya 2HCGPf30WPkAr1G6HahtVpauH4VAQYsPxrGdk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.37.75 with SMTP id x51mr3262337eea.71.1304963057889; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.127.79 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2011 10:44:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DC729EE.9090600@sugarcrm.com> <4DC75FFF.40008@lerdorf.com> <4DC7A7F0.4000504@sugarcrm.com> <4DC819D0.5010008@lerdorf.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:44:17 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: B3N7R8tF6KT5YWWunZN6pYpEVNE Message-ID: To: "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf , Stas Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61541282b2f604a2db634d Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs) --90e6ba61541282b2f604a2db634d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > That's simply not true. But just because one group of users feel strong= ly > > about something doesn't mean it should go in. There has to be some leve= l > of > > curation or we end up with every feature under the sun resulting in a > huge > > mess. > > Are you sure? > Please take a look at every topic defined on wiki page. Is there ANY > topic to be discussed that came from userland? > If you say yes, please point me to the thread. What I clearly see > there is that every feature defined there came from users with php-src > karma. > there is at least one, mine but I also think that the core devs and the php userland/community is too far away, we would need more people from the userland to contribute to the development of the php language. http://www.slideshare.net/andreizm/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-what-happe= ned-to-unicode-and-php-6 =E2=80=9CBecause it=E2=80=99s nearly impossible toparticipate on Internals if yourpoo-throwi= ng arm isn=E2=80=99t strong.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 @coates =E2=80=9CThose with talent, competence, energy,and good ideas over a period= of time - and who outlast the rest - tend to be the main drivers behind PHPdevelopment.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 @a Tyrael --90e6ba61541282b2f604a2db634d--