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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Please let's not bitch about lazy users not learning
 C to implement THEIR missing feature. (Was Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again)
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

On 05/09/2011 10:32 AM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> Again what I commented on other thread and again you barely see what I
> mentioned, the feature is ALREADY written in C and compatible with
> latest PHP trunk.
> I'm not bitching against do and don't dos... I'm bitching about
> ignored feature that are not even discussed.
>
> I agree with you, it's an Open Source project and any help from any
> front is valuable.
> But as I pointed out on other thread, only developers with php-src
> karma had features evaluated.
> If you think I'm wrong, please re-read the entire thread of
> Annotations and then get back to me with a single message on thread
> where actually had a discussion with some mature content instead of
> personal feelings.

A lot of people who understand the problem very well weighed in on this 
feature. Framework authors and others who have a real use for 
annotations, and there was still no clear agreement.

As far as RFCs on the wiki only coming from people with php-src 
accounts, that is true, since that is our auth system for the wiki. But 
getting an account, even if it is simply to submit an RFC to the wiki is 
rather trivial.

Or looking at it another way, if the feature is so popular, getting one 
of the 2000 people with an account to submit the RFC shouldn't be a problem.

-Rasmus