Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52165 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80888 invoked from network); 9 May 2011 17:32:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2011 17:32:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.42 mail-yi0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.42] ([209.85.218.42:56744] helo=mail-yi0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EA/1D-20726-A3528CD4 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 13:32:42 -0400 Received: by yib12 with SMTP id 12so2294371yib.29 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:32:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TLyjPZk+HYUVZ+B24aD8lrRUt4zCD2tbMDaXi86ejU8=; b=pN3AxAMPExxPAvosLOgC/oGFocsuO2gsFKHWYDM+luwOsqcuKa5mg/hNSBRhP+SCPe arFzeI5T8q6aQNnXo7hYHoZJdqrvsGcCk7PyGb+0vJKHNKiHEUZbGlcURzQjuosdfdHL cNG4SND9YcTBrg1m8GFkiLiQPAO9nnum5RluY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WsLeLsUHzFKM07n+Sux3S8hZcQ4ko55owTH84YcdPXWUmBmCHersV8XiCPs2SpqwoD 5MeWiFkGZ4LB2kJrMFlSR4Ng3V0Y4mrhtXET6p1j8FW3VyzmQdq9s7U/drXU81Z9jV6t cq4bVD0RZK5xfVCx6q5Jf8giWFMtP529QCFAs= Received: by 10.147.106.13 with SMTP id i13mr4268258yam.12.1304962359083; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:32:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.171.4 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2011 10:32:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:32:19 -0300 Message-ID: To: RQuadling@gmail.com Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Please let's not bitch about lazy users not learning C to implement THEIR missing feature. (Was Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again) From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") Hi Richard, Again what I commented on other thread and again you barely see what I mentioned, the feature is ALREADY written in C and compatible with latest PHP trunk. I'm not bitching against do and don't dos... I'm bitching about ignored feature that are not even discussed. I agree with you, it's an Open Source project and any help from any front is valuable. But as I pointed out on other thread, only developers with php-src karma had features evaluated. If you think I'm wrong, please re-read the entire thread of Annotations and then get back to me with a single message on thread where actually had a discussion with some mature content instead of personal feelings. Regards, On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Richard Quadling wrot= e: > On 9 May 2011 15:44, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com > wrote: >> It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and >> rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's >> very bad for the language and very bad for all of users. > > But surely it is a motivational factor to learn C, and have a go at > implementing the feature yourself! That's what Open Source is all > about. If you don't like the feature, or it is missing one, _DO_ > something about it. Saying that the developers are "not interested" > isn't really doing anything. > > You really can't expect volunteers to simply down tools from family, > life, paid work to jump through hoops, attempting to make sense of > every user's request. No matter how loud they shout. > > Now. If you had a pot (and a big pot) of money, then maybe you could > sponsor some developers for your pet peeve. I'll take your money. > > As a volunteer to the PHP project (mainly making an arse of myself in > as many places as possible) and a PHP user, I am deeply indebted to > all the work undertaken by the core devs. I get paid because of them. > > Please treat the devs nicely is all I'm really saying. > > Richard. > -- > Richard Quadling > Twitter : EE : Zend > @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --=20 Guilherme Blanco Mobile: +55 (16) 9215-8480 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com S=C3=A3o Paulo - SP/Brazil