Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52162 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76865 invoked from network); 9 May 2011 17:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2011 17:26:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.42 mail-yw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.42] ([209.85.213.42:62678] helo=mail-yw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/4C-20726-6B328CD4 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 13:26:16 -0400 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1so2291727ywh.29 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hc0oTAUmIikoj4H9WkrfOwHfl06VBBUZnb5mFPrkvok=; b=i7pMzhH77GXkqUUiHvGV7QiBZo1TuD9iwl0MkiYBjUl2seTWJREVGEkxuXwkKIy4h6 O137GViLopSiAyD9600z2JHypjRCpk3MSd7Fciwz8DAXrby5bqxJYMEr0+prCOGzWfii sv1KAUkLCt6iTI4cZwUxex+jGAd8zApSEMWxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wc04/yerkrcQ1BfBOvK27sBvOd7L+BYNhA3WtG1yAzxPmTp5QpJlRgxhkpR5ru97KA 3oavwd2l2DWGbLlz6JyfLxmeE0/6jZMWv/PPsE4wHPkJ6MMoJ7fRqhvswa9El+hDj8qw WQ1UmS9anCU/UZYScRvfMl626LLMUhcZ9EM40= Received: by 10.236.175.67 with SMTP id y43mr8116772yhl.110.1304961971162; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.171.4 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2011 10:25:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC819D0.5010008@lerdorf.com> References: <4DC729EE.9090600@sugarcrm.com> <4DC75FFF.40008@lerdorf.com> <4DC7A7F0.4000504@sugarcrm.com> <4DC819D0.5010008@lerdorf.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:25:51 -0300 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Stas Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") Hi Rasmus, On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 05/09/2011 07:44 AM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote: >> >> - Annotations >> >> I already proposed a patch and none here discussed. You rather >> preferred to shout "PHP doesn't need Annotations" instead of discuss >> the patch that was proposed. > > If someone doesn't agree that annotations belong in PHP why do the detail= s > of the patch matter? The actual concern is that someone didn't agree with that and (re-read the thread to comment this), also confirmed that never used Annotations and have a "very superficial knowledge" of the possibilities, than to me it's more than clear to me that it's not a valid opinion. If it is for you, then PHP has a problem. > >> PS: I think that internals mailing list should be revised with all >> proposed ideas and wrap them on a better plan. >> It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and >> rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's >> very bad for the language and very bad for all of users. > > That's simply not true. But just because one group of users feel strongly > about something doesn't mean it should go in. There has to be some level = of > curation or we end up with every feature under the sun resulting in a hug= e > mess. Are you sure? Please take a look at every topic defined on wiki page. Is there ANY topic to be discussed that came from userland? If you say yes, please point me to the thread. What I clearly see there is that every feature defined there came from users with php-src karma. Now I re-ask you, are you really sure it's only a small group that want something or do you now confirm that only php-src users have relevance on features request? > > -Rasmus > --=20 Guilherme Blanco Mobile: +55 (16) 9215-8480 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com S=C3=A3o Paulo - SP/Brazil