Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52149 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52845 invoked from network); 9 May 2011 16:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2011 16:14:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rquadling@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rquadling@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rquadling@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.42 mail-qw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.42] ([209.85.216.42:39986] helo=mail-qw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5A/87-20726-DC218CD4 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 12:14:05 -0400 Received: by qwi4 with SMTP id 4so3539764qwi.29 for ; Mon, 09 May 2011 09:14:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=aoFh2TGVWnhnuSbkJDmwdn1Gtlle0TF/dApra0lbKR4=; b=gt9pPgIH2pvuMTpQMNm3rwNLqJ+PyEkUIYMwXmWjjZ7Uw0DZf7MmM8iwomocShrRTe 93ckcBU0L5AMduapNGpu053oo6LfFNMUstkRcVksYiRa0BaIhIzyeGh9/r1JhyLBBlUt /3m7CqIcUWcyHTwjh1XK3O3vaMsSHkQMWfhkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=i9Yj6O3OhH9CgcB5ELBdqYVzvaBvL9G9UIG5h2yhCWCRSx5L4X8+Y2MpLYqwrT3Z30 UzQzgztGPybW52/ZnSQW+GUUVIe3X9D6u0FX52vWOxEBShtfl5sfCflPFjw16HxlYV6y 6BpbEloDYAoqNTbWrx0+Ztt/fOW/IZHJgZtt8= Received: by 10.229.251.13 with SMTP id mq13mr5247196qcb.36.1304957642307; Mon, 09 May 2011 09:14:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.81.212 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2011 09:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: RQuadling@GMail.com Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:13:42 +0100 Message-ID: To: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Please let's not bitch about lazy users not learning C to implement THEIR missing feature. (Was Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again) From: rquadling@gmail.com (Richard Quadling) On 9 May 2011 15:44, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote: > It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and > rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's > very bad for the language and very bad for all of users. But surely it is a motivational factor to learn C, and have a go at implementing the feature yourself! That's what Open Source is all about. If you don't like the feature, or it is missing one, _DO_ something about it. Saying that the developers are "not interested" isn't really doing anything. You really can't expect volunteers to simply down tools from family, life, paid work to jump through hoops, attempting to make sense of every user's request. No matter how loud they shout. Now. If you had a pot (and a big pot) of money, then maybe you could sponsor some developers for your pet peeve. I'll take your money. As a volunteer to the PHP project (mainly making an arse of myself in as many places as possible) and a PHP user, I am deeply indebted to all the work undertaken by the core devs. I get paid because of them. Please treat the devs nicely is all I'm really saying. Richard. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY