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Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:50:32 -0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From: martinscotta@gmail.com (Martin Scotta)

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 Martin Scotta


On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd love if you ever discuss these items for 5.4:
>
> - ReflectionNamespace
>
> Currently it's impossible to grab a docblock that documents an
> Annotations, for example, or even access the namespace declaration.
> It's also impossible to check which "use" is declared on the
> namespace/file/class scope.
>
> - Annotations
>
> I already proposed a patch and none here discussed. You rather
> preferred to shout "PHP doesn't need Annotations" instead of discuss
> the patch that was proposed.
> Actually, it was proposed twice, but it seems that you only looked at
> first one (which I agree that was incompatible with PHP way of being).
> Pierrick and I updated the patch to be as similar as possible with PHP
> structure, but none here even looked at it. For those interested:
> https://github.com/adoy/PHP-Annotations
>
> - SplArray
>
> We currently support SplInt, SplString, SplFloat, SplBool, etc. We
> could support SplArray which would perfectly enhance implementations
> that need to keep track of array state. Currently PHP provides 0
> support on this area, and it would be nice if it provides a helpful
> API to it. One good example to look at is:
>
> https://github.com/doctrine/common/blob/master/lib/Doctrine/Common/Collec=
tions/Collection.php
>
> - Comparable
>
> Since operators overloading on PHP is hard to be implemented natively,
> we could easily support it through OO. This idea can be extensively
> discussed, but someone already proposed a patch previously any none
> discussed it.
>
>
> PS: I think that internals mailing list should be revised with all
> proposed ideas and wrap them on a better plan.
> It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and
> rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's
> very bad for the language and very bad for all of users.
>

Totally agree.
 a user.




>
>
> Regards,
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> >> I see the array shortcuts are on your todo discussion list there. We
> >> probably shouldn't get into a full discussion on that since it will sp=
an
> >> hundreds of messages. But if any of the folks who voted no last time
> >> around have changed their minds, it would be good to know. And before
> >> deciding, try using MongoDB from PHP for a couple of weeks. :)
> >
> > I agree on both discussion point and MongoDB point :) I think for thing=
s
> > that were already discussed extensively it makes sense to have a vote i=
n
> > case people changed their minds and discuss at length only if they have
> > something new to say - like proposing new approach to the problem - whi=
ch
> is
> > this case probably won't happen.
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