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Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:44:31 -0300
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To: Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>, PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com")

Hi,

I'd love if you ever discuss these items for 5.4:

- ReflectionNamespace

Currently it's impossible to grab a docblock that documents an
Annotations, for example, or even access the namespace declaration.
It's also impossible to check which "use" is declared on the
namespace/file/class scope.

- Annotations

I already proposed a patch and none here discussed. You rather
preferred to shout "PHP doesn't need Annotations" instead of discuss
the patch that was proposed.
Actually, it was proposed twice, but it seems that you only looked at
first one (which I agree that was incompatible with PHP way of being).
Pierrick and I updated the patch to be as similar as possible with PHP
structure, but none here even looked at it. For those interested:
https://github.com/adoy/PHP-Annotations

- SplArray

We currently support SplInt, SplString, SplFloat, SplBool, etc. We
could support SplArray which would perfectly enhance implementations
that need to keep track of array state. Currently PHP provides 0
support on this area, and it would be nice if it provides a helpful
API to it. One good example to look at is:
https://github.com/doctrine/common/blob/master/lib/Doctrine/Common/Collecti=
ons/Collection.php

- Comparable

Since operators overloading on PHP is hard to be implemented natively,
we could easily support it through OO. This idea can be extensively
discussed, but someone already proposed a patch previously any none
discussed it.


PS: I think that internals mailing list should be revised with all
proposed ideas and wrap them on a better plan.
It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and
rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's
very bad for the language and very bad for all of users.


Regards,

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wrot=
e:
> Hi!
>
>> I see the array shortcuts are on your todo discussion list there. We
>> probably shouldn't get into a full discussion on that since it will span
>> hundreds of messages. But if any of the folks who voted no last time
>> around have changed their minds, it would be good to know. And before
>> deciding, try using MongoDB from PHP for a couple of weeks. :)
>
> I agree on both discussion point and MongoDB point :) I think for things
> that were already discussed extensively it makes sense to have a vote in
> case people changed their minds and discuss at length only if they have
> something new to say - like proposing new approach to the problem - which=
 is
> this case probably won't happen.
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