Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52113 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27707 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2011 18:44:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Apr 2011 18:44:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.170 mail-ey0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.170] ([209.85.215.170:62795] helo=mail-ey0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B5/E3-10915-E785CBD4 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:44:15 -0400 Received: by eyf5 with SMTP id 5so1433503eyf.29 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:44:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=e3lEXqK3f+9tcB2gI7rp8Ps4DHeZZtIowwTZJvgljyY=; b=B/r/5jIezeMeC6R0lsCh0ckv34n9S/uFPEYe4qV7WVTxMkghemn8I85YBKtX7c8VwU iID3sTqNELUH7uS5hi50GribEr1VIEFmfnZXzmE+Kbf1LnsJ+qLkZovQr6C4GvipAOwG hJJZGaW6N/rIS4tn3aICGgkN8yESWR8h8b0fA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=je6e2Pan75ceIt2Z0V/5XffUcIJpOAoKaKc1H8vostZjmO6GBHm+0WCrg/XOnKhV3L W0qpfRQ/cw8cpEEn4wHcf175C4OL3yrO6Y5aVsk9xGbj+YscMofpeshElvg5r/jC6cwy Zdeg95yPn2wrJs7R0ePtCiHMwuMICzJPewSBc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.37.75 with SMTP id x51mr2630241eea.71.1304189051621; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.127.79 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:44:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DBC2D1B.10302@lerdorf.com> <4DBC4885.7010209@sugarcrm.com> <4DBC4C9A.2050502@lerdorf.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:44:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IEHwwo0cxnnsXaQpkKGUzgD7jHg Message-ID: To: Matt Wilson Cc: Internals Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61541224525d04a2272d45 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Change Request: Make PDO default to not emulate prepared statements for MySQL From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs) --90e6ba61541224525d04a2272d45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Matt Wilson wrote: > Really would depend on the user. Part of my company still runs on SQLServer > 2003, for instance... > > Corporate infrastructure rarely sees upgrades. Your cousin with the > wordpress fetish, on the other hand... > > what is SQLServer 2003? can't see that on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SQL_Server btw. SQLServer has more enterprise level lifecycle: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=2852 http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=2852 it's much longer than the mysql 2 years after first GA + 3 years extended support. http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2008/08/22/mysql-end-of-life-eol-policy/ so imo enterprise doesn't mean that you run EOLed version, but that you have longer support so you can upgrade less frequently. for example PCI-DSS mandates: "All critical systems must have the most recently released software patches to prevent exploitation. Organizations should apply patches to less-critical systems as soon as possible, based on a risk-based vulnerability management program." I don't see why can't we change this for php-next. That would still give us time to document the change and for the users to take actions. I don't think that many people who uses 5.0 when php-next get released would be eager to upgrade. Tyrael Tyrael --90e6ba61541224525d04a2272d45--