Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:51874 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20109 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2011 09:04:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Apr 2011 09:04:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 207.97.245.113 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 207.97.245.113 smtp113.iad.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [207.97.245.113] ([207.97.245.113:33774] helo=smtp113.iad.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 04/51-12062-9A514AD4 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 05:04:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp51.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4875E20675; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 05:04:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp51.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 831DD20923; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 05:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DA415A4.9080607@sugarcrm.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:04:36 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Scotta CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <4DA26602.6080303@lorenso.com> <20110411133657.GK7113@crousti> <4DA3468E.8000509@sugarcrm.com> <23.C1.24294.9CC43AD4@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] proposed access modifier "silent" ... was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Implicit isset/isempty check on short-ternary operator From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > It seems that there are no consensus about this feature so... > > *if in doubt, leave it out.* I don't see any serious objections to it except comments from people that seem not really understand what this feature is about and complain about "bad code" which has nothing to do with the actual feature proposed. I am all for consensus, but I have very hard time accepting it as a valid objection, sorry. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227