Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:51865 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29125 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2011 17:50:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Apr 2011 17:50:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain nouvo.com designates 91.121.162.155 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.121.162.155 sociatom2.sociatom.com Received: from [91.121.162.155] ([91.121.162.155:59167] helo=ks360347.kimsufi.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 05/A0-24294-36F33AD4 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:50:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ks360347.kimsufi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F192850194 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:50:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at sociatom.com Received: from ks360347.kimsufi.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ks360347.kimsufi.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ja+lzIZeMceP for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:50:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.205] (lns-bzn-47f-62-147-131-15.adsl.proxad.net [62.147.131.15]) by ks360347.kimsufi.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:50:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DA33F4D.3030009@nouvo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:50:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Internals Mailing List References: <4DA26602.6080303@lorenso.com> <20110411133657.GK7113@crousti> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] proposed access modifier "silent" ... was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Implicit isset/isempty check on short-ternary operator From: Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com (Pascal COURTOIS) Le 11/04/2011 19:17, Michael Morris a écrit : > But don't ask the engine to be rewritten to encourage bad coding practices > which failing to properly initialize variables is a prime example of. It's > this sort of thinking that got register_globals and magic_quotes put into > the language no doubt. In the long run it's an extremely bad idea and needs > to be avoided. +1 Use APL if PHP is too verbose for you (good luck :-) )