Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:51618 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41983 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2011 15:52:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Mar 2011 15:52:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.42 mail-bw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.42] ([209.85.214.42:60277] helo=mail-bw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/B3-19125-0B0567D4 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:52:17 -0500 Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so4732082bwz.29 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:52:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=40WMRaLB5J9VxGM4nmjK/7xCfOSz5gjWs3eO5i7Gr3o=; b=c8yRAkAJ1l3nTpvApcDSTLpct+e3QgTd/686N3byjNMfcnOtk+wjgWPHOFtmMo5HRk 8wg0ZlDsUfVq4hwvY2RVXNBbHXcUqQ0BfoRKCwEunOT0JbhxWpTAhMGj6Eae9hJR8XH0 G3/HSkwiTtF3dOe3YwWqWtKP7gBRACzQZ0k7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VVc9GrR+toz4v9d4+3P7pjQ7jPYmGxpYDIpY/XsN48/y93xVD/t5bnKSGTEMthowzW ccpUCdAkhc57lwI2xzoJ2L5OfIFcMiLI/bHHWywjJKnZ08mno1WbQ/GESGxc/AkGSUVl Y2kPnUIFiEb5md0NrekjwSGi2z1ZWnra4cvIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.141.17 with SMTP id k17mr4643506bku.41.1299599533800; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.56.139 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:52:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5F.53.19125.74F467D4@pb1.pair.com> References: <4D7431C3.10405@sugarcrm.com> <4D74A8FD.3020102@sugarcrm.com> <4D74AB3C.8040702@sugarcrm.com> <4D751AC2.3030800@sugarcrm.com> <4D7535E2.5040007@sugarcrm.com> <4D754997.5080704@sugarcrm.com> <4D754B73.1040800@sugarcrm.com> <4D754EED.5080909@sugarcrm.com> <5F.53.19125.74F467D4@pb1.pair.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:52:13 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Matthew Weier O'Phinney" Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] file streams & metadata From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > As a developer, in many cases I'd prefer something incomplete and limited in > support to nothing at all. I've been bitten by the same issue Stas describes, > and having a way to tie into touch and chmod in my stream wrappers would be > incredibly useful -- even if it won't work with _every_ stream. I'm not saying that this feature is not necessary. Only that what is proposed will hit us hardly very soon after we have released it. And we will have to live and hack with it for a long time. That's a price I don't want to pay. All I'm saying is to actually sit down and think about what we are doing instead of running into the 1st solution, as easy as it could be. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org