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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:49:08 +0100
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To: Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] file streams & metadata
From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>wrote:

> Hi!
>
>
>  That was also the reasons why they are not present in our stream
>> implementation. I could image something for touch (there is a FR for
>> it afair) as it is very easy to emulate on stream where it could not
>> work, but really not for ch*.
>>
>
> We have chmod now defined on all systems. However good or bad it is, I see
> no problems in doing the same for streams. Streams that don't have this
> semantics are free to not define this handler or not to support this
> particular option, as happens with other optional handlers - e.g., mkdir
> makes no sense for sockets, but that doesn't prevent mkdir from existing in
> streams or socket streams from working fine.  If you look at the docs, you
> see there's even a section for streams saying what's supported and what's
> not by particular stream, so obviously streams not supporting some
> capabilities always were fine. So where's the problem?
>
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>
From the sideline:

it's hard to belive that there are no one else with opinion on this matter.
I don't want to take sides because I don't have the necessary knowledge
about the matter, but maybe it would be a good idea to write an RFC, and and
maybe a POC, so we can see how intrusive would be the implementation.
and if there are more bystanders, then please make your voice heard.

Tyrael

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