Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:51607 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35426 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2011 21:12:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Mar 2011 21:12:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.42 mail-bw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.42] ([209.85.214.42:62642] helo=mail-bw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FD/C0-30054-F2A457D4 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:12:16 -0500 Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so4146718bwz.29 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:12:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kcu3WK9J1/QuT9XECsowr9XCQAfoWro10Ci1ptr8Yv4=; b=q1ymkhu58eQ/+QA87KbNVQU89+1Rweg47JkFqtYsausil5HlwUtk7R8B/4VhrhmlQZ UN25O9gIbLoiPYlz0lY2tOswwZ1EOb8sfWPnnt6nIhU72wQViq44puP3BmLH8IaDLHBZ 7hbrlrmpzoWqoZ9/OTyvT1H7P8rS0KAutfPT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=m3aAd2WEyx3g+LU+YSwOo7DwSDRSStT+hdv/B9ck/fURTPNFUX2ffxs3nsmh4EllHz lnPLpLMfB+PSdCSd2O8PpG6Ft6UdUZ31Z1/mfw3UGHemgm49enHyyA7t9bBdhQBsPTGd zwUSCvDA8BfHMueZfCNzaBOTJ+wAStiKvqG9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.20.65 with SMTP id e1mr212390bkb.149.1299532331361; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.122.2 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 13:12:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D754997.5080704@sugarcrm.com> References: <4D7431C3.10405@sugarcrm.com> <4D74A8FD.3020102@sugarcrm.com> <4D74AB3C.8040702@sugarcrm.com> <4D751AC2.3030800@sugarcrm.com> <4D7535E2.5040007@sugarcrm.com> <4D754997.5080704@sugarcrm.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:12:11 +0100 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] file streams & metadata From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Incomplete - yes. If we only implemented things that are "complete" in the > sense you require, we would have no file operations in PHP at all - after > all, we don't have support for reparse points and NTFS ACLs in file > functions now, so by your logic they shouldn't be implemented until we > design filesystem layer that allows to do it. Until then, PHP is better > without any filesystem support at all. I don't see how it makes any sense. I do not see a sense to continue this discussion as you clearly ignore many aspects of the problem, even after we mentioned them numerous times in this thread. As in, it is not only about NTFS ACL or Windows only. Get over that first then it will be easier to actually discuss possible solutions or alternatives. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org