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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:36:16 +0100
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To: Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] file streams & metadata
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi,

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> To hear that stream are useless for filesystem operation is very new to
>> me.
>
> It was surprise for me too, nevertheless once you try to use it, you pretty
> soon hit this roadblock with any serious application and have to resort to
> very ugly hacks.

The more I read what you say the more I think that what you want is
not a working stream implementation to do filesystem ops, but a way to
emulate a virtual file system using stream. I don't think it is the
goal of our stream implementation to do that. Tools like FuseFS are
more appropriate and I can certainly do similar things on Windows as
well. I have done that in the past for debugging purposes and we could
certainly provide something as well.

>> I have to repeat what I said earlier, these specific informations
>> (ACL, reparse points or other OS/FS specific informations) are very
>
> Nobody cares about reparse points. There's probably no PHP app in existence
> that cares about reparse points. There's tons of apps that use touch() and
> chmod() though.

if nobody was taking care of them then PHP on windows will be
miserable with junction, links and co already. But it is not.

>> hard to implement in a generic way as you are proposing. As the idea
>> in itself is good, I have serious doubts that a useful (working and
>> portable) solution can be implemented with what is described in your
>> initial post (barely posix only).
>
> It is useful, and it will be working.

I disagree for the reasons I explained earlier. It is even useless as
it will be a very limited version.


Cheers,
--
Pierre

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