Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:51200 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56943 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2011 02:33:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2011 02:33:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=h.reindl@thelounge.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=h.reindl@thelounge.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thelounge.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Windows 98 (1) Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:45418] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5E/A5-27430-E65312D4 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:33:20 -0500 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (local.rhsoft.net [84.113.45.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelounge.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 62DEEBA; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 03:33:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D21356B.6010505@thelounge.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:33:15 +0100 Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc13 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: weigelt@metux.de CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <1290504719.2294.251.camel@guybrush> <20101231035937.GA18520@nibiru.local> <4D1D695C.9040400@sugarcrm.com> <20101231114927.GC18520@nibiru.local> <4D1E0E9E.4060908@lerdorf.com> <20110103005226.GA27395@nibiru.local> <4D211FFE.2090301@sugarcrm.com> <20110103011924.GD27395@nibiru.local> In-Reply-To: <20110103011924.GD27395@nibiru.local> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=7F780279; url=http://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB71E72E6F0686B9BE4577105" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Release Process From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald) --------------enigB71E72E6F0686B9BE4577105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 03.01.2011 02:19, schrieb Enrico Weigelt: > In essence you say here, that I should diff the production config > example from one version to another to find out what changed > and adapt my config, on each update. Hm thats your job as sysadmin > Adds about 15mins extra work What is your job > per system and update just for that. per system? are you riding totally differnet or random configurations on many servers? > Why aren't the production settings the built-in defaults ? because on development-machines warnings should jump over your screen before you put a broken application on a production server on the other side NEVER EVER any server-software has to go online withe default settings becuase lazy admins they are not knowing what they do! PRODUCTION: error_reporting =3D E_ALL | E_STRICT display_errors =3D 0 log_errors =3D 1 DEVELOPMENT: error_reporting =3D E_ALL | E_STRICT display_errors =3D 1 log_errors =3D 1 And yes with this settings for 500 domains we having some warnings every month because applications which are spitting in the log are fixed or killed because they are not production ready This way update from 4.0 -> 5.0 -> 5.3 for some servers with henrets of domains where painless - so what will you tell us expecting you are not knowing what your configuration does? --------------enigB71E72E6F0686B9BE4577105 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0hNWwACgkQhmBjz394AnlkTACglRzxx/7doGENq13kWBewm/JE c0QAnA9gVShcrWVmk1IyfvfyU07ZO0aZ =75IQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB71E72E6F0686B9BE4577105--