Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:51189 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31425 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2011 01:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2011 01:02:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=weigelt@metux.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=weigelt@metux.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain metux.de from 82.165.128.25 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: weigelt@metux.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.165.128.25 caprica.metux.de Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.165.128.25] ([82.165.128.25:49134] helo=mailgate.caprica.metux.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3B/80-27430-B10212D4 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 20:02:21 -0500 Received: from mailgate.caprica.metux.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p030w1N6027907 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:58:01 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with UUCP id p030vQI0027877 for internals@lists.php.net; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:57:26 +0100 Received: (from weigelt@localhost) by nibiru.metux.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) id p030tBMb031260 for internals@lists.php.net; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:55:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 01:55:10 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <20110103005510.GB27395@nibiru.local> Reply-To: weigelt@metux.de References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Terror: bin laden, kill bush, Briefbombe, Massenvernichtung, KZ, X-Nazi: Weisse Rasse, Hitlers Wiederauferstehung, 42, X-Antichrist: weg mit schaeuble, ausrotten, heiliger krieg, al quaida, X-Killer: 23, endloesung, Weltuntergang, X-Doof: wer das liest ist doof Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Release Process From: weigelt@metux.de (Enrico Weigelt) * James Butler wrote: > As a 'grown up' you should never expect changes to a system > to just work without testing, any change introduces risk, > you need to mitigate against that risk by testing. True, but applications should be designed in a way that minimizes the risk of breaks. > Irrespective of whatever the php release notes say (you did read > them didn't you), one should run the new version against your > code in a non-production environment so all the breakages you > experience get trapped and fixed before they hit your users. Great. Now you just have to tell me how to do it with thousands of different webapps from your hosting customers ... ;-o cu -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weigelt@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme ----------------------------------------------------------------------