Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:51165 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95397 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2010 18:51:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Dec 2010 18:51:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=james.butler@edigitalresearch.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=james.butler@edigitalresearch.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain edigitalresearch.com does not designate 217.154.180.62 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: james.butler@edigitalresearch.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.154.180.62 analysis.edigitalresearch.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.154.180.62] ([217.154.180.62:37161] helo=mail.edigitalresearch.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9A/71-21194-A162E1D4 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:51:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edigitalresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115631E0009; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:51:02 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at edigitalresearch.com Received: from mail.edigitalresearch.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edigitalresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J-8nYVH5oGio; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:50:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zarafa.localdomain (unknown [10.0.0.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.edigitalresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 392CC1E0004; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:50:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zarafa.edigitalresearch.com (zarafa.edigitalresearch.com [10.0.0.20]) by zarafa.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 5061E100B34; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:50:59 +0000 (GMT) To: =?windows-1252?Q?"weigelt=40metux.de"?= Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?"internals=40lists.php.net"?= Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:50:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Zarafa 6.40.2-22452 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Release Process From: james.butler@edigitalresearch.com (=?windows-1252?Q?James_Butler?=) As a 'grown up' you should never expect changes to a system to just work without testing, any change introduces risk, you need to mitigate against that risk by testing. Irrespective of whatever the php release notes say (you did read them didn't you), one should run the new version against your code in a non-production environment so all the breakages you experience get trapped and fixed before they hit your users. In a small attempt to steer this back on topic,=20 Does anyone have any problems with python's or gento's enhancement proposals generally=3F I think they could be made a bit more lightweight but otherwise are pretty useful and transparent.=20 -- James Butler Sent from my iPhone >=20