Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50959 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51408 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2010 16:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Dec 2010 16:53:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@hristov.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@hristov.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hristov.com from 85.92.87.36 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@hristov.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.92.87.36 iko.gotobg.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.92.87.36] ([85.92.87.36:45270] helo=iko.gotobg.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6E/23-32270-389010D4 for ; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:53:23 -0500 Received: from [77.0.224.33] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by iko.gotobg.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQjjw-00089r-MP; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:53:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4D010979.3070706@hristov.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:53:13 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ferenc Kovacs CC: PHP Internals List References: <4D00ABFE.5070403@hristov.com> <4D00CF96.3070701@hristov.com> <4D010093.8090604@thelounge.net> <4D010193.9030603@hristov.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iko.gotobg.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - hristov.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecating "global" + $GLOBALS, making $_REQUEST, $_GET, $_POST read-only From: php@hristov.com (Andrey Hristov) Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Andrey Hristov > wrote: > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 09.12.2010 13:46, schrieb Andrey Hristov: > > There were many apps which relied on register_globals but > register_globals was introduced. > There were many apps which relied on references in PHP4, but > the object model changed in 5, references too. > There are apps which rely on magic_quotes, but magic quotes > are deprecated. > When some feature is changed or deprecated there will always > be applications that need to change. > > > that is not a valid reason for bc-breaking > if you do not want $GLOBALS in your functions do not > use them but do not force bc-breaks which are hurting > others without any sense > > > one day you might have to support globalized applications and I am > sure you will feel very enlightened to fix them :) > Â > > > so you don't like the idea to fix this kind of code in your application > (an application that YOU have to support), but you would like to change > the language, to force everybody out there to do the same. > nice. fixing a design flaw of the past, evolution in other words. > Tyrael > Andrey