Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50925 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67307 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2010 10:26:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Dec 2010 10:26:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@hristov.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@hristov.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hristov.com from 85.92.87.36 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@hristov.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.92.87.36 iko.gotobg.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.92.87.36] ([85.92.87.36:35001] helo=iko.gotobg.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/31-61607-7DEA00D4 for ; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 05:26:31 -0500 Received: from [77.0.224.33] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by iko.gotobg.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQdhd-0007mC-RW; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:26:22 +0200 Message-ID: <4D00AED1.5050807@hristov.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:26:25 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Butler CC: PHP Internals List References: <4D00ABFE.5070403@hristov.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iko.gotobg.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - hristov.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecating "global" + $GLOBALS, making $_REQUEST, $_GET, $_POST read-only From: php@hristov.com (Andrey Hristov) James Butler wrote: > +1 million because GLOBAL scope is horrid (generally) and is thoroughly abused > -1 million because it will be the most horrific BC break since time began and I imagine it will break so much code that is currently in the wild... how hard it will be to grep for "global" and $GLOBALS? > In short I like it but I'm not sure how it would ever get implemented without breaking stuff... (this is where the clever core developers can propose some easy method I can't think of right now) INI variable, like register_globals > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Hristov [mailto:php@hristov.com] > Sent: 09 December 2010 10:14 > To: PHP Internals List > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Deprecating "global" + $GLOBALS, making $_REQUEST, $_GET, $_POST read-only > > Hi guys, > the topic says most of it. What do you think about deprecating the > global keyword and $GLOBALS with it? Together with this making > $_REQUEST, $_GET and $_POST read-only as they should be used only to > read-only anyway. > > The reason for global + GLOBALS is that these are abused and which leads > to spaghetti programs, when used by unexperienced users. Also they have > impact on side effects from functions that don't only rely their parameters. > > Best, > Andrey > Best, Andrey