Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50833 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6812 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2010 19:45:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Dec 2010 19:45:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com from 148.87.113.121 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 148.87.113.121 rcsinet10.oracle.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [148.87.113.121] ([148.87.113.121:17159] helo=rcsinet10.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7A/45-07252-F67F7FC4 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:45:52 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB2JjlZT022142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:45:48 GMT Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB2Jjf5q000863 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:45:42 GMT Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 838577031291319112; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:45:12 -0800 Received: from [130.35.68.31] (/130.35.68.31) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:45:12 -0800 Message-ID: <4CF7F747.3010100@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:45:11 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) On 12/02/2010 11:23 AM, James Butler wrote: > Following that logic, they will expect the next major version number, whatever it is, to have Unicode. Nothing can be done about that apart from telling the world it won't, including it in, or let them find out for themselves... > If we decide the next major version doesn't have unicode then we will have to manage/expect some community confusion. This will happen regardless of designated version number. Chris > -- > James Butler > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Dec 2010, at 19:02, "Christopher Jones" wrote: > >> >> >> On 11/26/2010 11:15 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>> 3. The motivation to skip 6 doesn't stem from marketing at all. The main motivation is that there's a VERY concrete perception amongst many users about what PHP 6 is. It's unlikely that PHP 6 will actually be that. Skipping this version makes perfect sense from just about any POV I can think of. That's actually one thing I do feel more strongly about - we should probably not reuse the version number 6.0 for something that's completely different than what we've been talking about for several years, whether it's now or anytime in the future. >> >> Users aware of PHP 6's unicode intentions will assume PHP 7 is a superset of >> PHP 6 and therefore has unicode. So skipping the number "6" won't resolve >> any user confusion. >> >> Chris >> >> -- >> Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com >> Tel: +1 650 506 8630 >> Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ >> >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > -- Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/