Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50832 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3659 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2010 19:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Dec 2010 19:23:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=james.butler@edigitalresearch.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=james.butler@edigitalresearch.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain edigitalresearch.com does not designate 217.154.180.62 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: james.butler@edigitalresearch.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.154.180.62 analysis.edigitalresearch.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.154.180.62] ([217.154.180.62:35484] helo=mail.edigitalresearch.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2A/D4-07252-742F7FC4 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:23:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edigitalresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E171C901D; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:23:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at edigitalresearch.com Received: from mail.edigitalresearch.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edigitalresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JMlqbVaOGnRG; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zarafa.localdomain (unknown [10.0.0.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.edigitalresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BBB51C9018; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zarafa.edigitalresearch.com (zarafa.edigitalresearch.com [10.0.0.20]) by zarafa.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A7F0100BC0; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:23:44 +0000 (GMT) To: =?windows-1252?Q?"Christopher_Jones"?= Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?"internals=40lists.php.net"?= Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:23:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Zarafa 6.40.2-22452 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: james.butler@edigitalresearch.com (=?windows-1252?Q?James_Butler?=) Following that logic, they will expect the next major version number, whatever it is, to have Unicode. Nothing can be done about that apart from telling the world it won't, including it in, or let them find out for themselves... -- James Butler Sent from my iPhone On 2 Dec 2010, at 19:02, "Christopher Jones" wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 11/26/2010 11:15 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> 3. The motivation to skip 6 doesn't stem from marketing at all. The main motivation is that there's a VERY concrete perception amongst many users about what PHP 6 is. It's unlikely that PHP 6 will actually be that. Skipping this version makes perfect sense from just about any POV I can think of. That's actually one thing I do feel more strongly about - we should probably not reuse the version number 6.0 for something that's completely different than what we've been talking about for several years, whether it's now or anytime in the future. >=20 > Users aware of PHP 6's unicode intentions will assume PHP 7 is a superset of > PHP 6 and therefore has unicode. So skipping the number "6" won't resolve > any user confusion. >=20 > Chris >=20 > --=20 > Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com > Tel: +1 650 506 8630 > Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ >=20 >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20