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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:49:52 -0500
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To: Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: RFC: Making T_FUNCTION optional in method declarations
From: gwynne@darkrainfall.org (Gwynne Raskind)

On Nov 30, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Arvids Godjuks wrote:
> Personally, as a user-land developer, I'm against it, so -1.
> function keyword is the only sane way to quickly find a function
> definition in lots of code. Not always IDE's are able to fully
> understand the interconnections in frameworks and point by CTRL +
> Click me to the function definition, not to say that in many cases you
> just don't have that IDE available right now and right here.
> Now it's quite easy to make a search on a folder recursively - just
> enter "function blah" and here you go - one entry with the function
> definition. Try that with the function/method name without the
> "function" keyword, good luck with going through tons of entries.
> 
> I deal with typing the whole "public/private function blabla() {" by
> defining a auto complete shortcut like "prfnc => space => private
> function |(){" where | is cursor.
> 
> Please keep it KISS way. Language should evolve for sure, but some
> things are not just worth sacrificing the verbosity even if it means
> cuts typing some of the most common keywords in the language and can
> be perfectly done keeping the BC.
> 
> P.S. Personally I will prohibit my developers to use the short syntax
> without the "function" keyword.

Agreed. -1 here also.

-- Gwynne