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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Making T_FUNCTION optional in method declarations
From: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt ("Gustavo Lopes")

On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:42:00 -0000, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>  
wrote:

> Hi!
>
>> Sorry for moving offtopic, but if the PHP syntax is going to change
>> then we should revisit other proposals that add/change syntax. For
>> example, I think the short syntax for arrays was declined [from 5.3]
>> mainly because it introduced a new syntax at a time we wanted to
>> preserve BC:
>
> I find it fascinating that a short time ago the short array
> syntax and other like proposals were unanimously rejected with "PHP
> needs no syntax sugar, everything should be explicit and verbose!" and
> now it's complete reversal - everybody supports syntax sugar, adding new
> complex syntax and what not.

In my opinion, the short array syntax is a completely different matter and  
we shouldn't be constantly diverting discussions...

>
> I personally am not sure this thing is worth doing, I never had a  
> problem with typing "function" but if so many people do, maybe it's OK  
> for a major version release.

It's a completely redundant keyword, which I frequently forget and where I  
find no expressive power. But I also write a lot of Java, so I might be  
biased. I'm +0 on this.


-- 
Gustavo Lopes