Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50650 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19720 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2010 11:11:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Nov 2010 11:11:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:38423] helo=mail-gx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/70-16104-8F832FC4 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 06:11:53 -0500 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so1764546gxk.29 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:11:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=48AjjvO3ESaayeOYZUb7b86nzMDOGZgp5bf5hkefe1o=; b=MiFrPJMwbvuTN+gABMC0bjJTq/pt3KUf8RDK9DuBofwGrnnbpRFphIOPRBzc1Uzfqg EOHzv8YHgAimBfWm1Cx8WGMOCTSPJJ5RHAU0nTpFoiNIDVF8qeE63j5XhdDgyYDMfuve N0Q/Y/f0EdvrQUwBVT9Cl1ZZM6WWNHrXG8epM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=EbKXaeqGCfYTe7MqW2U20LrUnZjc146C5TC9/EG+wW3HUmat8MHFWMoi7BD7BzawuN uX52DEvHfoJkXGaHAOgkmFSfdYdvLJWdagBPSEJOXIztGra40J5LF4FNsUUTqW2+jdMO Jc5OkOkdtNutyNWREf59TRXEOIbGCrSJ5Hw3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.200.20 with SMTP id c20mr673510agq.60.1290942709646; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:11:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com Received: by 10.90.53.4 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:11:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1290879624.7033.826.camel@guybrush> <61577946-B04E-4218-82A0-5157ADC96102@roshambo.org> <4CF231F8.5090104@sugarcrm.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:11:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YtGnwF71ExyvYor14rHKZUxj3DA Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Philip Olson , PHP internals list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b42dd7a244b504961b052b Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Making T_FUNCTION optional in method declarations From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs) --001636b42dd7a244b504961b052b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Stas Malyshev w= rote: > >> Hi! >> >> >> Sorry for moving offtopic, but if the PHP syntax is going to change >>> then we should revisit other proposals that add/change syntax. For >>> example, I think the short syntax for arrays was declined [from 5.3] >>> mainly because it introduced a new syntax at a time we wanted to >>> preserve BC: >>> >> >> I find it fascinating that a short time ago the short array >> syntax and other like proposals were unanimously rejected with "PHP >> needs no syntax sugar, everything should be explicit and verbose!" and >> now it's complete reversal - everybody supports syntax sugar, adding new >> complex syntax and what not. >> >> I personally am not sure this thing is worth doing, I never had a proble= m >> with typing "function" but if so many people do, maybe it's OK for a maj= or >> version release. >> > > the answer is simple: The people who usually reject the proposals with th= at > reason are: > Johannes Schl=C3=BCter > Derick Rethans > Richard Lynch > Lester Caine > and you Stas :) > > sorry if I wrong somewhere, I've just putting this list from my memory, > because I can't search in google or gmail for +1/-1, maybe it would be a > good thing, to put together a little statistic from the mailing list to s= how > things like: who are the most active in the votes, who avarage vote by > person, etc. > > ps: I didn't want to offend anybody, so I'm sorry if I did. > > Tyrael > ahh, I did forget to add Zeev to the list. :) Tyrael --001636b42dd7a244b504961b052b--