Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50627 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47780 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2010 17:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Nov 2010 17:12:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.211.66 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.211.66 ns.km36107.keymachine.de Solaris 10 (beta) Received: from [217.114.211.66] ([217.114.211.66:65454] helo=config.schlueters.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 36/82-32860-1EB31FC4 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:12:02 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.29] (ppp-93-104-47-37.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.47.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by config.schlueters.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EEC294AE35; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:11:58 +0100 (CET) To: Matthew Weier O'Phinney Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <67.91.32860.CC831FC4@pb1.pair.com> References: <73.C4.59959.876BBEC4@pb1.pair.com> <3EA67EA2-A9B1-4DFB-8A30-05B37BCA313B@iki.fi> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154B70@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290705653.7033.73.camel@guybrush> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154C3B@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290707707.7033.115.camel@guybrush> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D3910@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4808@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4B7B@il-ex2.zend.net> <67.91.32860.CC831FC4@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:11:57 +0100 Message-ID: <1290877917.7033.817.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 11:58 -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > On 2010-11-26, Pierre Joye wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > 3. The motivation to skip 6 doesn't stem from marketing at all. The > > > main motivation is that there's a VERY concrete perception amongst > > > many users about what PHP 6 is. > > > > Leaving the very small conference crowd for a second: nobody never > > ever heard of php6 before the total fiasco a couple of months ago. > > Not true. There have been "PHP 6" books *published* and on the market > for literally years. While none of them mention Unicode in any meaningful way ;-) But well, the first thing is: "Do we want to go to a new major version number or not?" Only if we do the question for 6, 7, 42, ... is relevant. I interpret the discussion as more people favor 5.4. So the other discussion can be held when it is decided to change the major version. johannes (who will propose a key syntax change in a moment)