Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50605 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72537 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2010 21:29:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2010 21:29:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.127 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.127 c2bthomr09.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.127] ([213.123.20.127:48583] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8D/11-00463-1C620FC4 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:29:38 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.4_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr09.btconnect.com with ESMTP id AWC81362; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:29:34 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4CF026BE.7080406@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:29:34 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.14) Gecko/20101013 SUSE/2.0.9-2.1 SeaMonkey/2.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Internals References: <3EA67EA2-A9B1-4DFB-8A30-05B37BCA313B@iki.fi> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154B70@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290705653.7033.73.camel@guybrush> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154C3B@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290707707.7033.115.camel@guybrush> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D3910@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4808@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4B7B@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4D24@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4D99@il-ex2.zend.net> In-Reply-To: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4D99@il-ex2.zend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Good-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.4CF026BE.0068, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Status: score=35/50, host=c2bthomr09.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=suspect(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0207.4CF026BE.0184,ss=2,pt=DBB_65836,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Zeev Suraski wrote: >> that's the crowd I referenced to. The users I discuss too, in locale conference, >> > UG, enterprises, etc. never heard or only vaguely about php6. Or they heard >> > about it while seeing a book called "PHP 6 and mysql 6" or something stupid >> > like that;). > I've yet to meet someone in the last few years who knew about the PHP 6 project, and wasn't aware it was about unicoding PHP... > People care about the roadmap of the products they're using. I'm not sure why you would think that the multi-year flagship version of PHP would remain a best-kept-secret. If you google for "PHP 6" it's clear beyond a reasonable doubt.. At the time that PHP5 was released PHP6 was being documented and roadmaped as the unicode path which would be in alpha 'in a couple of years time'. THAT is the documentation that was used as the basis of several premature books on PHP6. http://www.php.net/~derick/meeting-notes.html from the November 2005 meeting in Paris is what we were all expecting to follow PHP5 since PHP5 did NOT address the unicode problem that was well understood even back then!!!! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php