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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:01:20 +0100
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:

> I disagree. =A0Google for "PHP 6". =A0I've received tons of questions abo=
ut it from non-core-community attendees to conferences.

that's the crowd I referenced to. The users I discuss too, in locale
conference, UG, enterprises, etc. never heard or only vaguely about
php6. Or they heard about it while seeing a book called "PHP 6 and
mysql 6" or something stupid like that ;).

> =A0I've received countless questions about it from Japanese and Chinese u=
sers. =A0It's out there. =A0If I had to bet based on my experience with use=
rs, there are a lot more people that know what PHP 6 was supposed to be tha=
n people who know its plans were scrapped.

Same here, and that's one of the pandora box I want to open again.
Only not now, but not necessary in 2 years either. Hence the
importance of the RFC and clear, transparent process first.

> I'll reply to some of your personal rant in person. =A0It doesn't belong =
here...

Rants? I only replied to "invented story".

Cheers,
--=20
Pierre

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